Meet the Team

 NL Staff


  • Natural Lifemanship Co-Founder and CEO
  • Founding board member (former member) of EAGALA
  • Horse expert – over 40 years training horses and over 25 years effectively partnering horses with humans to promote healing and healthy relationships
  • Co-facilitator of thousands of EAP sessions serving clients with trauma histories
  • Cowboy poet


  • Natural Lifemanship Co-Founder and CEO
  • Over 15 years effectively treating traumatized populations through EAP and complementary therapeutic modalities
  • Trained in expressive and experiential therapies, play therapy, neuro-biofeedback, the Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics, TF-CBT, and EMDR
  • Formerly PATH and EAGALA certified
  • Published author of EAP research
  • Licensed Professional Counselor – State of Texas

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  • Director of Operations
  • Over 10 years as Event Director
  • Over 5 years as Executive Assistant
  • Over 5 years in Finance
  • Business education with a minor in Law


  • Director of Media and Content Development
  • Professional videographer, producer and editor
  • Horse expert
  • Natural Lifemanship Trainer
  • Lifetime experience working with horses under tutelage of father, Tim Jobe


  • Director of Education
  • Over 15 years teaching at elementary, secondary and post-secondary levels
  • Research consultant specializing in Program Evaluation
  • Expertise in culturally and linguistically responsive pedagogy
  • Trained in the Neurosequential Model in Education
  • Published author of peer-reviewed education research, program evaluations, and book chapters


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  • Natural Lifemanship clinician, trainer and blog contributor
  • Licensed Professional Counselor – Supervisor
  • Certified in EMDR by the EMDR International Association
  • Trained in Trauma Focused Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
  • Over 20 years providing mental health therapy in clinical settings
  • Conference speaker and consultant for the treatment of eating disorders and trauma


  • Natural Lifemanship clinician, trainer and blog contributor
  • Since 1994, has provided therapy for hundreds of traumatized children and families
  • C0-author of Complex Trauma in Children & Adolescents, published in Psychiatric Annals in 2005
  • First responder providing psychological first aid for victims of violence and natural disasters
  • Published author of children’s stories
  • Natural Lifemanship EP, trainer and blog contributor
  • Over 9 years co-facilitating TF- EAP sessions
  • 12 years experience in therapeutic work with traumatized populations, especially youth and teens
  • Lifetime experience working with horses under tutelage of father, Tim Jobe
  • Trained and formerly certified in EAGALA, the Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics, and as a ropes course facilitator


  • Natural Lifemanship EP, trainer and host
  • Founder and President, Horse Sense of the Carolinas, Inc., Marshall, NC
  • EAGALA Advanced Certified
  • Parelli Level 2 graduate
  • Over 30 years teaching horses and people
  • Over 16 years rescuing horses and pairing rescued horses in EAP work
  • Published author of multiple books and curricula on EAP/EAL and business practices
  • Adjunct faculty for Prescott College’s Equine Assisted Learning Concentration Program
  • Natural Lifemanship Trainer
  • National Certified Counselor
  • Specialization in Play Therapy from St. Mary’s University
  • EMDR trained
  • Trained in hypnotherapy, art therapy and sand tray
  • Former Program Director of Equine Assisted Psychotherapy at Cherokee Center for Change Counseling in Atlanta, GA
  • Former EAP consultant for The Equus Project in Talking Rock, GA
  • Formerly EAGALA certified
  • Full-time mom


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  • Natural Lifemanship clinician, trainer and blog contributor
  • Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Austin, Texas
  • Certified Natural Lifemanship Clinician and Equine Professional
  • Raised around horses and trained in multiple disciplines including eventing, dressage, and polo
  • Former elementary teacher



Gabrielle Remole, LCSW, NLC-C,EP

  • Natural Lifemanship clinician, EP and trainer
  • Therapist and EP at Gateway Family Services in Potomac, Illinois
  • Trained in multiple therapy modalities including Play Therapy, Crisis Intervention and TF-CBT
  • Trained in EAGALA, PATH and as a therapeutic riding instructor
  • Over 13 years experience as an adoption caseworker
  • Accomplished musician who uses music often in therapy sessions
  • Raised around horses and has loved horses much of her life, having shown competitively as a child and teen



Lauren V. Startup, LAPC, NLC-C,EP

  • Natural Lifemanship clinician and trainer
  • Master’s level Licensed Associate Professional Counselor
  • Works in private practice in Georgia
  • Life-long equestrian
  • Rode hunt seat for the University of Georgia’s varsity equestrian team


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Beverly Walsh, PhD, NLC-C

  • Natural Lifemanship clinician and trainer
  • Doctorate in Counseling Psychology, Texas A&M University, 1995
  • Over 20 years clinical counseling practice in Houston, Texas
  • EAGALA trained
  • Currently has full EAP/EAL Private Practice working with children, teens and families
  • Specializes in ADHD, Mood Disorders, ASD, and Parenting Issues


Claire Hunter, MA, LPC, NLC-C,EP

  • Natural Lifemanship clinician, equine professional, and trainer
  • Nationally certified Licensed Professional Counselor
  • EMDR trained
  • Extensive experience counseling survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault
  • Life-long horse lover and occasional hunter/jumper and dressage competitor
  • Former triathlete, marathoner, and coach


Greer Swiatek, LPC, CRC, NCC, NLC-C

  • Natural Lifemanship Clinician and Trainer
  • Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas
  • Nationally Certified Rehabilitation Counselor
  • Master’s in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University in Atlanta, GA
  • Private Practice in Austin, TX specializing in Children and Families


Kendra Twitty, MA, LPC

  • Licensed Professional Counselor with over 18 years of specializing in working with developmental and complex trauma
  • Nationally Certified Trauma Focused Cognitive Behavioral Therapist
  • Clinical Director of Child Abuse Prevention Association
  • Formerly EAGALA Advanced Certified and PATH certified as therapeutic riding instructor
  • TBRI (Trust-Based Relational Intervention) Trainer
  • Founder and Director of H.O.P.E. – Horses Offering Personal Empowerment, Inc., Yemassee, SC


Sara Sherman, BA, EGCM, NLC-P,EP

  • Natural Lifemanship NLC-P/EP, trainer and host
  • Founder of Discovery Horse, trauma-informed coaching practice in Brainerd, MN
  • BA from Prescott College in Counseling Psychology and Equine Experiential Learning
  • Certified practitioner of the Equine Gestalt Coaching Method®
  • Trained in EAGALA and PATH
  • Two decades of professional equine assisted coaching with a focus on youth and families in group and individual settings
  • Professional speaker


Cindy Skelton-Hodge, NLC-EP

  • Natural Lifemanship certified Equine Professional
  • Natural Lifemanship trainer and host
  • Founder and President, Windows to My Soul, Somerset, California
  • EAGALA Certified
  • Parelli Level 3 graduate
  • Six years co-facilitating EAP sessions focused in trauma
  • Former Silicon Valley executive, now living her purpose-filled life


  • Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, COO of Gateway Family Services, LLC & CEO of Hooves of Hope
  • Natural Lifemanship Clinician & Trainer
  • 24 years of horse experience including training and showing Quarter Horses in multiple disciplines.
  • Over two decades working with children and families in a variety of settings including as a Children’s Pastor & a MultiSystemic Therapist.
  • Currently pursuing certification in the Neusequential Model of Therapeutics through the Child Trauma Academy.
  • Trained in EAGALA & E3a
  • Extensive experience in Motivational Interviewing & CBT
  • Population focus of kids & families in the juvenile justice and foster care systems.


Kelly Jones, NLC-EP

  • Founder and owner of South Wind Equestrian Center, Leander, TX
  • Natural Lifemanship certified Equine Professional and expert on horse behavior
  • Specializes in relationship work with horses and humans
  • Facilitates team-building workshops and retreats
  • Former riding instructor
  • Offers individualized coaching using equine assisted learning



NL Business Associate


Lisa Kruse, MA, LPC

  • Natural Lifemanship business partner, training associate and host
  • Founder, Diamond LK Counseling, Celina, TX
  • Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology
  • Specific training in PTSD and working with survivors of sexual abuse
  • Over 9 years providing individual and group therapy for adolescents and adults in the Dallas/Fort Worth area
  • Over 30 years experience with horses
  • Owner of a cutting horse breeding operation